Trinity

“The Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God and together, not exclusively, they from one God. The Trinity isco-eternal, without beginning or end, and co-equal”

What’s the Quran Says about God?

 say: He is Allah, the one and Only;

 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

 and there is none like unto Him.

 ( Surah Al-Ikhlas   Chapter:114  Verses:1-4)

How the Trinity doctrine originated?

Persecution of the Christians and the suppression of the early Church under the Roman emperors which began in the first century, ended with the coming into power of Constantine the Great at the Milvian Bridge in 312 C.E. Consequently, through conversion to Christianity special favors were offered to the people in the form of political, military and social gains. As a result, thousands of non-Christians joined the Church and enabled Constantine to wield great power over the Church affairs.

  It was during the reign of Constantine that the idea of Jesus Christ as co-equal to God, the Father began to gain momentum. Yet, Trinity was not an established doctrine at that time. The idea of a triune god stirred great controversy within the Church as still many clergy and laymen did not accept the position of Christ as God.

  This disagreement reached the level of confrontation between Bishop Alexander of Alexandria, Egypt and his presbyter Arius. Bishop Alexander taught that Jesus was equal to God but not Arius. So at a synod held at Alexandria in 321 C.E., Arius was deposed and excommunicated,

 Arius, tought in institutional disfavor, still had much support outside Egypt. Many of the important bishops, such as the learned historian Eusebius of Palestinian Caesarea and his powerful namesake, Eusebius, Bishop of Nicomedia, theologically agree with Arius: Jesus Christ is not God.

 The sustained controversy disturbed Constantine and in order to legitimatize his position, he invited all bishops of the Christian Church to Nicaea (which is now in Asia Minor) in May 325 C.E. Thus, the Council of Nicaea began to settle the dispute concerning the relationship between God and His son. Constantine, who was in charge of the proceedings, exercised his political power to bring to bear the bishops to accept his theological position. The creed signed by 218 bishops was clearly anti-Arian. In other words, the Creed of Nicaea endorsed the Son as co-equal to God. Two hundred eighteen of the bishops signed this creed, although it was actually the work of a minority.

 The Encyclopedia Britannica summarizes the proceedings of the Council of Niacea as follows:

"The Council of Niacea met on May 20, 325. Constantine himself presiding, actively guiding the discussion, and personally proposed (no doubt on Ossius' prompting) the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, "of one substance with the Father." Over-awed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them against their inclination."

 Constantine regarded the decision of Nicaea as divinely inspired. As long as he lived no one dared openly to challenge the Creed of Nicaea; but the expected concord did not follow.

 Though the Council of bishops accepted the Creed of Nicaea there was no mention of the Trinity. The controversy over the nature of Jesus continued for several decades. In the year 381 C.E. a second ecumenical council met in Constantinople This council adopted the Nicene Creed stating that Jesus and God were co-equal, co-eternal and the deity of the Holy Spirit. The doctrine of the Trinity came to be formally established as the cornerstone of Christian faith for the next fifteen centuries.

What’s the Bible says about Trinity?

Bible does not contain the celebrated doctrine of the Trinity. If this Trinity doctrine were true, it should be clearly presented in the Bible because we need to know God and the way to worship Him.

 Not anyone among the prophets of God from Adam down to Jesus (Pbuh), had the concept of the Trinity or a Triune God. No one of the messengers of God spoke any veiled statement to that effect or is there any reference either in the Old or New Testaments of the Bible confirming of such doctrine. It is, therefore, strange that neither Jesus (Pbuh) nor his disciples speak about the Trinity in the Bible.

What the old testament says about god?

 Strangely, none of the prophets before or after Jesus (Pbuh) taught the doctrine of the Trinity. Rather, they proclaimed the Oneness of God. God alone is transcendent.

 Prophet Moses (pbuh) says: "The LORD our God, is one LORD, and you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might." And these words which I command you this day shall be upon your hearts; and shall teach them diligently to your children., and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. And you shall bind them as a sign upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.” (Deut. 6:4-9)

"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god besides me." (Deut. 32:39)

"I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god."(Isaiah 44:6, The Bible)

 If God is trinute it should say I’m the first, the second is Jesus and third is Holy ghost.

Should not make idols

"You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God…"

(Exodus 20:3-5, The Bible)

These verses categorically prohibits all kinds of images of God, both naturalistic or representational art. No image can be adequate of God than Himself.

God is not a man

 "God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man that he should repent."

 (Numbers 23:19, The Bible)

 “He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind.” (1 Samual 15:29)

 “I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man the  Holy One among you.  I will not come against their cities.” (Hosea 11:9)

   We all know that Jesus (pbuh) is a man. So if man cannot be God how can Jesus (pbuh) be God?

So the Bible conforms the teaching of Quran regarding God.   

What’s the Bible says about Jesus (pbuh)?

 The birth of Jesus (Pbuh) was foretold:

"In the sixth month, the angelGabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin bethroded to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David, and the virgin's name was Mary." (Luke 1:26-27)

Here, God did not step down to become flesh as claimed by the churches, instead He

When the Quran says about the birth of Jesus(pbuh) it says

“relate In the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from Her family to a place In the East. she placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then we sent Her Our angel, and He appeared before Her As a man In all respects. she said: "I seek refuge from Thee to ((Allah)) Most gracious: (come not near) if Thou dost fear Allah." He said: "Nay, I am only a Messenger from Thy Lord, (to announce) to Thee the gift of a holy son. she said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint Him As a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed." (Quran 19:16-21)

There has been only One True God in the beginning, Who lives forever. The Trinity was a switch from the belief of One God (Monotheism) to three Gods (polytheism and paganism). Before Jesus (Pbuh), people believed in only One God, but after his birth, the churches added two more persons in the Godhead. Secondly, when Jesus (Pbuh) was a fetus, was the Almighty God also infused? Since the Trinitarians claim that the two or the three Persons being united in ONE BODY. Did all of them grew up as one fetus in the Mary's womb? If so, why did she deliver Jesus alone? How childish and how nauseous to think of Jesus (Pbuh) united in body with God?

A circumcised “god”

"And at the end of eight days, when he was circumcised, he was called Jesus . . ." (Luke 2:21)

God Almighty circumcised? !!!!!  If Jesus (Pbuh) is the true God, doyou believe that he needs to be circumcised?

A “god” without knowledge?

"And the child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favour of God was upon him.". (Luke 2:40, The Bible)

At first, this "god" Jesus was not knowledgeable when young but acquired wisdom when he reached adolescence. True God's wisdom neither increases or decreases nor is He subject of time and space because He is all the time perfect and absolute.

A fasting "god"

"And he fasted forty days and forty nights, and afterward he was hungry . . ." (Matt.4:2)

Fasting is one way of atoning one's sin and showing obedience and subservience to a superior. God is neither subservient to anyone nor need to fast to atone for His sins, not even to suffer wants

"god' Learnt Through Experience

"Learned he obedience by the things which he suffered."  (Hebrews, 5:8)

Devil tempted “god” for 40 days

Bible says that the true God cannot be tempted

“When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone” (James 1:13)

But Jesus(pbuh) was tempted by the devil for 40 days according to the Bible

"And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness. And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan." (Mark, 1:12-13)

"But (he) was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews, 4:15)

So how can Jesus(pbuh) be God?

“god” came only for Jews

"But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matt.15:24)

What Jesus (pbuh) said about God?

Jesus (pbuh) in his life time never mention about trinute God. He always talked about pure monotheistic (one and only) God not a trinute God.

When a learned Jews man asked Jesus (pbuh) “What is the first commandment of you?” He said,

“Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one” (Mark 12:29)

If Jesus (pbuh) was came to teach the Trinity, this was the best time to explain it, but he didn’t teach the Trinity. He talked about pure monotheism.

What is eternal life according to Jesus (pbuh)?

"And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

Here, Jesus(pbuh) clearly separated himself from God.

What Jesus (pbuh) said about himself?

"And going a little further he(Jesus)  fell on his face and prayed, 'Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt."

 (Matt. 26:29 and Mark 14:35-36)

So here Jesus (pbuh) submitted himself to almighty God. Islam means submitting yourself to Almighty God. Muslim means a person who submitted his will to Almighty god. Jesus (pbuh) submitted his will to almighty god. So he is a Muslim.

"Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." (Mark 10:18)

Jesus (pbuh) clearly separated himself from God by sayinh “"Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." .

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Matt. 24:36 and Mark 13:32)

If he is the God he should know all things which Father knows. But he said he don’t know  when the day judgment is.

"I can do nothing on my own authority: as I hear, I judge:and my judgment in just; because I seek not my own will, but thewill of him who sent me." (John 5:30,)

 If he is the true God he should have the power to do all things.

"For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will,but the will of him who sent me."

 (John 6:38)

"My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me." (John 7:16)

" … I do nothing on my own authority but speak thus as theFather taught me." (John 8:28)

"But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God . . ."

(John 8:40)

". . . I am ascending to my Father, and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 23:17)